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3D Models Proposal
02-01-2007, 12:25 PM,
#1
3D Models Proposal
I am a fan of esoteric but cool cars.

I have come to the realization that the chances of me being able to take the time to learn Blender to make cars is unlikely. It makes me sad in a way.

It is unlikely that some of the 3D models for cars that I am interested in would ever get made for VDrift without some form of incentive.

What would be a reasonable incentive? Cash, case of beer, credits for online stores, other?

If an incentive can be agreed upon, is there anyone out there interested in doing "contracted" models for VDrift? If so, please let me know as I can think of a few cars I would really like to get done for my own dynamic model tinkering.

Any model provided would have to be able to be checked into SVN and would have the same license of the existing cars in VDrift. Also, I can provide a mechanism for free download/upload if the VDrift developers don't want the "core" data/cars to get too cluttered with non-mainstream cars. Whatever works.

LMK

T!

p.s. For any car I would do the "leg work" of providing three view drawings and images, etc. of the car.
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02-01-2007, 06:45 PM,
#2
 
Well, I think most people will accept cash/PayPal. I think the big issue would be time, but if you offer enough and there is interest, I'm sure someone will bite. Post something in the cars/tracks forum, make an offer and see if anyone takes it. I think it's probably just a matter of making it worth people's time.

All that said it's probably easier than you think to use Blender. There is a learning curve, yes, but if someone would make a tutorial on how to build a car from scratch, it would be quite easy to follow. Making VDrift cars is in fact not that much different from making cars for any other game, and there are actually quite a few car modeling tutorials for Blender out there on the web. Google!
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02-02-2007, 07:02 AM,
#3
 
reece,

What kind of cars would you like?
I have allot of unfinished cars so maybe I've already done 1 for you.
What would I like to have for it? hmmm don't need cash or something, so what I would like is you to be happy with the game and maybe promote it with you're friends/family/internetsite
If I don't yet have a car you like I can just make it for you since you want one so bad that you would actually pay for it Smile

In this post I've included a link to a easy tutorial for modelling a car in Blender.
http://vdrift.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?p=3215#3215
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02-02-2007, 11:24 AM,
#4
 
kcid Wrote:reece,

What kind of cars would you like?
I have allot of unfinished cars so maybe I've already done 1 for you.
What would I like to have for it? hmmm don't need cash or something, so what I would like is you to be happy with the game and maybe promote it with you're friends/family/internetsite
If I don't yet have a car you like I can just make it for you since you want one so bad that you would actually pay for it Smile

In this post I've included a link to a easy tutorial for modelling a car in Blender.
http://vdrift.net/Forum/viewtopic.php?p=3215#3215

Thank you! I was hoping you or Alex would offer to help.

I am a big fan of VDrift and have gotten most of the guys at my workplace playing with it.

I had read the Toyota tutorial. It appears straightforward enough on the surface but I know that to get quality results it is time intensive. Hence my proposal.

The cars at the top of my list currently are (in order):

- 1980-ish Mercedes Benz 280CE (W123)
- 1998 Subaru Impreza (GM6)
- A couple more flavours of Porsche 911 (1970s IROC and RSR, 1988 25th Anniversary Carerra - I miss that car so much... <sniff>)
- Jeep Cherokee (XJ)
- Maybe some muscle cars... ~TransAm race series variants in particular.

The M-B and Subaru are really my big desires currently.

I will get the appropriate drawings and such together for the M-B and the Sube.

The M-B probably sounds stodgy to you but this is more what I have in mind: Mercedes-Benz Carlsson-tuned W123 Video @ YouTube

What cars do you have on the drawing board currently? PM me if you'd prefer.

Again, thank you so much!
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02-05-2007, 03:32 AM,
#5
 
I have a unfinished Impreza and some muscle cars. I'll include some into svn in a few days.
Good taste of cars by the way Smile
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02-05-2007, 10:58 AM,
#6
 
kcid Wrote:I have a unfinished Impreza and some muscle cars. I'll include some into svn in a few days.
Good taste of cars by the way Smile

LOL Thanks.

I figure it would be cool to get a bunch of guys doing multiplayer with the old Penske Camaros, Mustangs, Firebirds, Javelins, etc. Road Atlanta and Laguna Seca would be a blast. IROC 911s and third gen Camaro IROCS would be nice too. But let's not get carried away. Smile

I've been gathering the M-B collateral. I'll post links to the files tonight (when I get home).
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02-07-2007, 01:03 AM,
#7
W123 Collateral
Here's some images and a PDF of the Mercedes coupes and sedans:

http://moose.ca/vdrift-w123

If there is ANYTHING else you need to get started please let me know.

I have some ideas/requests for the general skin of the car beyond what is shown in the images. I will post tomorrow (midnight, 5AM comes quickly).

Do you need/want interior pictures?

T!
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02-07-2007, 10:33 PM,
#8
 
Request for skins and models related to the W123...

I don't know how interested you are in putting time into the W123 model. In an ideal world what I'd like for us to end up with are two models: a coupe and a sedan. If you only want to do one, the coupe would be enough. One or two skins/maps would be great too.

In both cases the stance and look of the car would be best if it was like the Carlsson rally car: low, wide, aggressive. This image shows the car under braking and the front suspension is under compression but if at steady state the car would be modelled kind of like that it would look really aggressive in my opinion. We can say it is the tarmac racing config or something. Wink

Don't bother modelling the fog lights since they are extra triangles for nothing effectively.

If the skins/maps for the cars could be done such that the grille treatment is like the blue car with the blacked out portions, that would be great. Also, the blacked out headlights behind the reflectors would be a nice touch too. The white side markers, not so much. Whatever, I prefer the orange. Maybe a couple of different skins.

As for colours, keep it basic. The silver with the black hood would be good enough. I can do the "foo-foo" stuff like tracking down the sponsor logos and such if you can't be bothered with it. We'd need a couple of different coloured skins I suppose. Silver gets boring after a while. Smile

As for wheels, the wheels on the Carlsson car are fine (gold mesh BBS). Model them or use something simpler from your tool box if needed. The proportion of sidewall thickness to tire width is fine/desired in my opinion. Being a car from ~1980 they are likely 16" wheels. The "pimptastic" wheels on the blue sedan are a bit much (all show and not much go). Comparing the images of the rally car to the other stockish cars I'm surprised the rally car doesn't have raised wheel arches to fit larger tires since they took the time to add flared arches. Reinforces that the wheels are likely "only" 16" I guess.

After re-reading this I hope I don't seem demanding. These are just ideas and I'd be happy with anything you can provide!
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02-08-2007, 04:55 AM,
#9
 
I like the Carlsson W123, looks like a mean machine. I'll finish up the Sub and then model a W123 from scratch. Can you find me a picture of the Grill and headlights as straight as possible from the front?
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02-08-2007, 11:38 AM,
#10
 
kcid Wrote:I like the Carlsson W123, looks like a mean machine. I'll finish up the Sub and then model a W123 from scratch. Can you find me a picture of the Grill and headlights as straight as possible from the front?

Will do. As part of my research for my next real car project (W123 coupe with small block Chevy and Tremec T56 is what I'm leaning) I've snarfed a couple thousand images off the net. Just need to spend some quality time with my Gallery setup at home to find something useful.

Do you need any Subaru stuff? Which variant are you modelling?

Btw, if anyone is modelling a car not mentioned in this thread don't hesitate to ask for three views or photos. Last time I checked I had close to a hundred thousand images of vehicles going back to the early 1900s in my car and and truck "pr0n" repository. I likely have something that can be quickly retrieved if it is a remotely "sporting" machine. If it is a car I like I'll likely go "hunting" if I don't already have images available.
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02-08-2007, 09:46 PM,
#11
 
Here's some images of the front end of the W123. I wasn't sure what you wanted in particular so if you need something not shown in these images let me know.
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02-09-2007, 07:48 AM,
#12
 
Yes Smile these are the images I need. I don't really need images for the Sub. I'm modelling the 95-01 Subaru Impreza coupe variant.
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02-09-2007, 09:11 AM,
#13
 
kcid Wrote:I'm modelling the 95-01 Subaru Impreza coupe variant.

Very good! Big Grin
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06-28-2007, 10:46 PM,
#14
 
Hey kcid, was just wondering if you had started on the W123 at all?

I haven't done anything with the Impreza other than take measurements. Sad But, I've got a steering wheel now so I'm in a better position to start playing with the .car file. I'm keen to get it off my plate.

If you haven't started the W123 yet, would you consider doing a 1999 BMW M3 (E36) before the W123? I bought one last night (a real one) so I'm kinda keen to get a model going. Wink The XG and XM are both E46 cars, right? We gotta have the complete M3 set I think (E30, E36, E46 - E92 in the future) Big Grin

It would still be cool to have a W123 in the game so if you have started it by all means continue. I'll go buy a 1/24 scale platic model of a W123 (if I can find one) and scale up the dimensions we need for the .car file. There are a couple of W123 (real ones) collectors in one of the local towns so I may try to connect with them for measurements. I see them picking up their kids at the school sometimes when I pick up my son.

If you have anything else due for release let me know what they are and I'll start the research for the .car files.

Thanks!
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06-29-2007, 10:07 AM,
#15
 
Ooh, yeah, an E36 would be great. If we could get an original E36, that could be our spotlight car, and reece could get us photos of the interior, sounds, etc etc. :-)
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