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Glitches on default (Estoril '88) map - Racecar56 - 01-31-2009
O_O I'm using the stable edition, and I find that I can go straight through the trucks with 'FIRE CAR' in front of them, and the ground to the left behind them, is un-collide-able!
hock: I downloaded the SVN just now and it has it too!
hock: I think it's a collision error.
Check out the screenshots.
Screenshots
Area whre it happens:
![[Image: failglitchvdrift2008stapw9.png]](http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7088/failglitchvdrift2008stapw9.png)
The action:
![[Image: failglitchvdrift2008stajy5.png]](http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6873/failglitchvdrift2008stajy5.png)
![[Image: failglitchvdrift2008stadp2.png]](http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/9850/failglitchvdrift2008stadp2.png)
(sorry for escape menu, it was dev version, which dosen't let printscreens unless you go on escape menu) >: (
I think its SVN r325.
I HAVE VERIFIED THIS ON SVN.
I HAVE VERIFIED THIS ON STABLE 2008.
The fire car trucks are fixed in SVN R326, so this isn't a problem.
this is my first post EVER!
It's easy to go 'behind the scene' in the Dijon-Prenois map, VERY easy. The Michelin sign isn't colliding but I'm too busy to put up pictures.
- joevenzon - 01-31-2009
Looks like the track is Estoril '88.
- joevenzon - 01-31-2009
Wow, I don't know how you ever got into that spot in the first place... but it should be fixed in data R326 (so, go to your data folder and do svn up).
- Racecar56 - 01-31-2009
I went through one of the red trucks on those itty bitty roads.
I found out because one of my turns made my car go nuts, and for that reason, found that glitch. I'll svn up right now.
EDIT: OK, the trucks are colliding now, but the ground is still not colliding. Here is a very easy way to reproduce the bug.
I'm using development version, you should too.
Go to the Estoril '88 map. Go forward quite a bit until you reach the big sign. Turn left to that little road, go down it a bit until you notice a 'parking lot' like area with a campari sign. Go there, then drive CAREFULLY down that road. To the right, you will see brown ground. Just drive into it... and you will fall into the never-ending abyss of death. Drive forward, and you will run into a red truck, where-as in the previous SVN and stable versions, you'd go straight through.
hock: [/i]
- alex25 - 01-31-2009
Racecar56 Wrote:OK, the trucks are colliding now, but the ground is still not colliding. Here is a very easy way to reproduce the bug.that was intentional on my part. objects you have no business of colliding with (i.e. not part of the race track) are left non-collide-able. this way one will soon figure out they should stick to the actual race track.
--alex--
- thelusiv - 01-31-2009
alex25 Wrote:that was intentional on my part. objects you have no business of colliding with (i.e. not part of the race track) are left non-collide-able. this way one will soon figure out they should stick to the actual race track.I would think that leaving things that don't need collision to be non-collidable would be a good idea since this should speed up collision detections. But it does make sense to keep players from falling into holes when they make mistakes. Maybe a simple flat barrier (possibly untextured, invisible) in front of the area that is non-collidable to keep cars from going through it and falling.
- alex25 - 01-31-2009
thelusiv Wrote:[Maybe a simple flat barrier (possibly untextured, invisible) in front of the area that is non-collidable to keep cars from going through it and falling.since we don't really have a joe-object editor that would mean going back to the 3ds file, adding the barriers in blender, re-exporting, etc. too much trouble for what it's worth. there is plenty of other things i'd rather have fixed first (like extending the collision box to cover the wheels for open-wheel cars, the ability to have more than 4 points specify a track segment, damage model, etc.)
--alex--
- Racecar56 - 01-31-2009
I kind of didn't think it was really worth fixing either, but I just wanted to make sure everyone noticed it.
- joevenzon - 02-01-2009
thelusiv Wrote:I would think that leaving things that don't need collision to be non-collidable would be a good idea since this should speed up collision detections.
You got it. It'd be simple to make everything collide-able, but there'd be some performance hit... not really sure how much, though.
- Racecar56 - 02-02-2009
I agree, maybe put a invisible, flat 'floor' below that 'hole'?
It would look like the car was in the dirt (lolwut) but it would keep it from falling... into the great... abyss... :O
And also an invisible non-textured wall (because the ground is sloped). It would definitely keep them from falling, but it would look nuts, and I don't think it would lag as bad as making the things 'true objects'.
- joevenzon - 02-02-2009
Racecar, you might want to do some experiments with the list editor tool and see how much performance impact there really is when everything becomes collide-able... it might not be that bad.