TL2 on Laguna Seca

[thelusiv]

Driving a few times around Laguna Seca with the TL2, I noticed a few things that made driving a little difficult or unrealistic.

* Driving over a bump strip in a turn almost guaranteed a spin. The bump strips should jostle the car up and down a good bit but not totally upset it while turning. The tires just seem to slide right off them.
* Driving into the sand seems to also upset the car a little too much. Not as bad as the bump strips though.
* If I hit a turn marker with the car, it comes to a complete stop. Something tells me in real life these would just become flat... however I am able to bump into these little objects at many angles without any strangeness from the collision system, so that's a very good thing.

I'll try some different cars and tracks and see if these problems are the same with them.

[joevenzon]

* Driving over a bump strip in a turn almost guaranteed a spin. The bump strips should jostle the car up and down a good bit but not totally upset it while turning. The tires just seem to slide right off them.

I haven't had this problem; can you make a replay? Sometimes I end up spinning out after going over a bump strip, but I probably would have spun out anyway. However this could probably be fixed by decreasing the bump amplitude for the bump strips in the track's list.txt.

* Driving into the sand seems to also upset the car a little too much. Not as bad as the bump strips though.

I agree, it might be a bit much, but it does stop people from driving in the sand. :-) This can also be tuned with the list.txt file.

* If I hit a turn marker with the car, it comes to a complete stop. Something tells me in real life these would just become flat... however I am able to bump into these little objects at many angles without any strangeness from the collision system, so that's a very good thing.

The little markers should probably just be set up in the list.txt with collision off, like how they are in Brands, for example.

[thelusiv]

I will try to make a replay, but I have reproduced this many times, just have one wheel off and it's all over with, even though the turn was going well otherwise. Doesn't matter if you let off the gas, too late...

I have been able to roll the car over by sliding off the road sideways into the sand. Once the car is on its roof, there's no getting it back. The tires squeal when moving and produce smoke as if they're on the ground. The car sort of bobs around like it's floating in water, with the roof half-sunk in the ground. I have some screen shots.

I might get time to play with listedit but maybe alex25 will see this and tweak it since he's probably better than me at it.